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APPENDIX FIFTEEN--
This is an ongoing discussion of an alternative
to the use of the Islamic name "Isa" for Jesus

 

 

Dear Steve,

It was with interest that I read the section of your book, Allah, Divine or Demonic, pertaining to the use of the word 'Isa. Thank you for your diligence in the matter. . I am a missionary working in _____________ among a Muslim people group called the ________. A number of us attended a seminar and the leader had great reservations about the use of the word Isa in translation and liturgy. What follows is a letter that I drafted and a couple of responses.

In Him we live

John S__________

 

 

First: A report on a conference, and
Secondly: A response from a veteran Arabic radio broadcaster:

 

 

My letter on the report on the conference:

Report on conference and follow-up letter that initiated the discussion

Dear __________

___________ and I among some 75 other [Christians] recently attended a conference on Islam here in ________. The conference was organized by a mission of Muslims, and they hosted the main speaker, named S_____ _____. He is with a ministry called _________________. S________ made a thorough presentation on the structure and practices of Islam, and his knowledge of Arabic gained while growing up in Lebanon certainly was an asset. He showed both a deep love for Muslims, and made no bones about the fact that Islam is a thoroughly systematic anti-Biblical, and anti- Christian religion.

One of the sessions that we had together was entitled, "Christ in the Qu'ran". (S______ was following the material that he had previously published in a tract and which will shortly appear in a website www.grace-and-truth.org). In this session we touched on the subject of the use of the name "Si" as well as the similarities and the differences of the concept of the Christ in the Bible and the Qu'ran.

S________ is convinced that many missionaries have uncritically adopted this name as an equivalent for Jesus, and he proceeded to show us that this might well contribute to more confusion than clarity. How did he show this?

1. By showing the roots of the name of Jesus in Hebrew as being derived from "Yeshua or Yehoshoua or Yahew who Saves" Thus Jesus is the Incarnation of the OT concept of the God who Saves as per the name that the angel commanded in Matthew 1.21 ...."he will save his people from their sins" This concept of the need for a Saviour is foreign, of course, to the Qu'ran as a person "saves" themselves. Thus it is no surprise that the Qu'ran does not reveal the name of Yaweh who saves, nor His incarnation.

2. A study of the name of "Si" showed some alarming things. As much as the Muslim associates the name "Si" in some way with Jesus, in actual fact it is not Jesus in the sense of the above. Additionally, S_______ showed that in Arabic, a way to denigrate someone is to turn their name around. Thus, he showed in Arabic script how to write the name of Jesus, and if the letters are reversed, the result is "Si". Also, he said that the word "Si" derived from the word, "ays" in Arabic, and this denotes something that should be avoided, like poison.

To quote directly from his tract. p. 9

"...if Christ neither died for our sins nor was raised for our justification...then Christ for Muslims is also not our Savior. In my opinion this is the reason why Muslims call Christ not "Jesus", like we do, but "Si" The word "Jesus", from its Hebrew root, has the meaning: "the Lord saving" and thus designates the SAVIOR. Since in Islam Christ is not saviour his savior-name had to be changed. The Arabic letters of the word "Si" can be viewed as a grammatical inversion of the letters that constitute the Arabic name of Jesus: "Yasu'u". Thus 'Isa is one manner in which the Arabic name of Jesus can be pronounced from the end to the beginning of the word. This circumstance possibly constitutes an indirect cursing of Jesus, for during damnation rituals in Semitic cultures the name of an accursed person is pronounced by inverting the order of the letters in his/her name. If this is the case, then the very name of 'Isa would be an indication that Islam does not only deny core teachings of Christianity but also spiritually fights against them."

One of the Christian brothers then asked the obvious question. What do you think of using the name "Isa-al-Masiah" in the worship services and in the New Testament. S______'s response was two-fold.

a. His personal opinion is that we are uncritically and perhaps unwittingly mixing two opposing concepts-not unlike pressing on the accelerator and the brakes-at the same time. On the one hand we are affirming the Christ and on the other hand we are denigrating Jesus the Christ. It is his view that this can inevitably not be profitable for a people who are called to "exalt his name, and magnify his name".

b. He suggested that we never underestimate the power of the Arabic language in the Muslim mind. A common fault of attempts at contexualization is a superficial understanding of Arabic and what it stands for. He strongly encouraged us to gain a more profound knowledge of Arabic before adopting things that might have negative ramifications. He showed for example, if Christians use the name "people of the book" for their gatherings, they could well be known as Jews or Christians. The distinction is not clear. Thus he suggested using the name of "ahl al-injil" to give more clarity.

From this seminar, and with conversations with both K_______ and O_______, I would like to make the following suggestions:

1. To look for creative ways to eliminate all use of the name "Si" in the New Testament.

2. To look at creative ways to eliminate the use of this name in all the worship songs.

3. To look at creative ways to eliminate the use of "Isa-al-Masiah" in prayers and to teach the believers why it is important.

One suggestion might be to use the Arabic word for Jesus, namely "Yasu'u" and perhaps "Yasu'u al-Masiah". Lots of food for thought. K________ told me that in another nation nearby the NT does not use the name Isa and that perhaps it might be an idea to check with them as to how they tackled the problem.

Thank you for your prayerful consideration as we strive to "magnify the name above all names"

In Him for my F________ brothers.

John S__________

 

 

Reply from B____________ to my letter that I had copied.

Dear John,

Received your message during a very busy week attending and speaking at a conference on missions to Muslims at the B_________________.

I have always been very critical of the use of the Qur'anic name given to our Lord Jesus Christ. Thus I agree with the points that brother S________ has made.

The simplest and most convincing reason for refusing to use the name 'Issa is that it has no meaning in Arabic. Every Arabic name has its root in a verb.

'Issa as a noun does not conform to the Arabic rules. It is meaningless. No theory that tries to explain it is satisfactory.

Muhammad, a a noun, is derived from HMD (pronounced hamada) which means to praise. Muhammad therefore means the one who is tremendously or greatly praised.

Biblical names have meanings, and thus we must insist on the use of the name Yesu'a in all Islamic languages. Yesu'a means Jehovah saves. Al-Massih is fine, as it means the Anointed One. The question remains, anointed for what purpose, the Biblical answer is to "save His people from their sins." Thus, the necessity of calling our Lord, Yesu'a al-Massih.

One of my contributions to the conference last week was to read at length from Chapter X of Bishop Kenneth Cragg's "The Call of the Minaret." I am sending you the portions I read and that dealt with the importance of INTERPRETATION. Please share the info with your colleagues, but do not have many copies printed as the material is copywriter by the Oxford University Press that published it back in 1956.

Fraternally in Christ,

B___________


Reply from Mark D___________, Anglican Minister.

He is also a senior associate of the Department of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics at the University of _______________, with the honorary title of Associate Professor, and was formerly head of the Department of Linguistics and Language Studies "Isa" on www.answering-islam.org

John -

I agree with the need to replace 'isa' with Yeshu'a. I would only use 'isa' in SPEAKING with a Muslim in order to establish understanding, but make clear that his name is Yeshu'a. ESPECIALLY in Biblical materials, songs and worship materials.

I don't agree with the arguments about spelling the name of Jesus backwards. This is a red herring, and insulting, and irrelevant, because I am aware of no original Islamic source that that professes anything but respect for 'Isa'.

But otherwise - I agree with the move.

Mark.

 

 

MY RESPONSE TO JOHN S__________________

By Steve Van Nattan

Dear John S___________

One of my complaints about Reformed churches over the centuries is that they held to their creeds and the Word of God, but they stopped examining the present day by the literal use of the Word of God and the mind of the Holy Spirit. You have no idea how refreshing your zeal is to me. I praise God for the people around you who are taking in hand to speak the holy name of Jesus Christ in truth.

In any case, I agree 100% with all of the people you quoted. I share the concern over the reversing of the name "Isa" as a slur. I would say that the devout Muslim has no notion of insulting Jesus or even Christians with that device. The secular Muslim, if they meant it as an insult, is not who you will win to Christ anyway. The devout Muslim believes something, so if you show him the truth about Islam, he will listen. I find very few tales of salvation coming to dead beat secular Muslims. So, if a brat Muslim uses "Isa" in mock, so what? That is not the critical issue.

As to the origin of the word "Isa," that is interesting. I am aware that it is NOT an Arabic word, and the verb discussion of your writer is brilliant reasoning. Mohammed traveled with caravans for Khadijah, his employer and wife, all over the trade routes. This would have taken him to Syria and Babylon, or its neighborhood, in his day. In that area were the first Upanishads who later migrated to Iran and on to India. They evolved into the Vedas and modern pagan Hinduism. The first of second Upanishad class, who were monotheists, were called the Isa Upanishads. I believe Mohammed got the word from the Syrian area, or even further east as a cavaneer.

Mohammed showed his tolerance for paganism by selecting Allah, a pagan god from Sumer and Babylon, and he showed his tolerance for pagan sources again when he let Allat, Manat, and Al'Uzza into the Koran in the Satanic verses. Why would we imagine he would find the true name of Jesus in his alleged revelations?

Since the word "Isa" is not Arabic, then we KNOW that it is from somewhere else. Hebrew sheds NO light on "Isa," nor does Geez, Aramaic, or Amheric. Where the word "Isa" is used by old world Christians in the Middle East, as possibly in Coptic Syrian or Chaldean churches, you will find that the name "Isa" looks suspiciously like it was borrowed from Islam in the distant past as Islam moved north and into the horn of Africa. I find changes in Aramaic usage in the Bible manuscript copies shortly after 625 AD, and it looks like Islam motivated this.

I met some Maronite (spelling???) Christians in Arizona where we lived recently. They would greet with the words, "Salaam Aykum" as near as I could detect it. They said they had taken the name of Allah out of their greetings. When I added the thought of questioning "Isa," they were very curious about this. There is a moving of zeal to examine the names of the Christian Godhead even in the old superstitious Christian churches like this. How much more we, who bear the literal Word of God and the zeal of the Narrow Way, should be willing to cleanse our lips of any suspect thing. Jesus said:

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

It is not an optional thing to use the right words which glorify God.

I again encourage you to press ahead. Be aware that some diplomatic word of caution or ecumenical cowardice will soon be added, possibly from a great scholar or in-church diplomat. Move forward with care that you do the right thing, but do not drag your feet, lest the slow bellies insert themselves into the issue.

Also, I see your people are suspicious of contextualization. This innovation in missions is rapidly emasculating mission work all over the world. The most idiotic thing in missions to Muslims is in this regard is the Jesus Mosques of North Africa. Southern Baptist missionaries are delighted with these aberrations of zeal. They are neither Christian nor Islamic. They are silly pagan exercises. I suspect you know about this thing.

Please keep in touch.

http://www.blessedquietness.com/alhaj/page22.htm

I trust you found the above page at my book site online.

God bless as you preach Christ to Muslims for whom Christ died,

Steve Van Nattan

 

 

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